Kilvin vs Framer
Framer is a website builder, and a good one - kilvin.ai is built on it. It isn’t designed for internal software, though, and that’s usually what people mean when they look for “Framer for internal tools.” Kilvin is a private workspace where an AI agent builds the trackers, dashboards, intake forms, and workflows a team uses day to day. Here is how the two relate.
Pages versus applications
Framer produces pages. Its data layer is a CMS: collections of content that populate those pages. That’s the right model for a marketing site.
Kilvin produces applications. Its data layer is a set of databases that apps read from and write to, shared across the workspace. A client tracker and a reporting dashboard run on the same tables. Uploaded files are indexed for the team and the agent.
Public versus private
Framer sites are meant to be seen by anyone. Editors are billed per seat; viewers are the public.
Kilvin workspaces are private. Every app sits behind your team’s login, with permissions per app and per dataset, user groups, and SSO/SAML and a HIPAA BAA on Enterprise. The people using the apps are your staff, and they’re covered by the plan, not billed as editors.
How things get built
Framer’s AI helps generate and lay out pages on a design canvas. Kilvin’s agent builds working software from a description, using your files, tables, and existing apps as context. You watch it build, adjust in plain English, and publish to your team with one click. Where you’d rather not build, Managed Build adds a Kilvin developer.
How Kilvin and Framer compare
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Best for | Teams running internal tools and workflows | Marketing sites, portfolios, landing pages |
Collaboration | One shared workspace; everyone sees the apps, files, and data they’re permitted to | Editors collaborate on a site project; seats billed per editor |
Deployment | One-click publish to a private workspace; hosting, storage, and databases handled | One-click publish to the public web; hosting and CDN included |
AI-powered development | Agent builds working apps from a description with the whole workspace as context | AI generates and lays out pages |
Prototyping | Live preview while the agent builds; iterate in plain English | Visual design canvas with live preview |
Security & access controls | Per-app and per-dataset permissions and user groups; HIPAA BAA on Enterprise | Editor roles; SSO for editors on Enterprise; no app-level user auth |
Form factor | Desktop-style workspace, private to your team | Design canvas and published websites |
Databases | Built in; shared across every app in the workspace | CMS collections for page content |
When Framer is the better choice
For anything public, Framer is currently the right choice. Marketing sites, landing pages, portfolios, and blogs are what it's built for, and its design canvas, CMS, and hosting are excellent for that. If you need a public page with a simple form that drops into a spreadsheet, Framer plus a form integration is enough.
Kilvin is the better fit as soon as the software needs a login for your staff, a database that apps write to as well as read from, permissions on who sees which records, or a workflow with more than one step.
Using Framer and Kilvin together
Since they do different jobs, there's no reason to choose. Kilvin's own site is built in Framer, and the tools the team uses to run the business live in a Kilvin workspace. Framer handles the front door; Kilvin handles what happens after someone walks through it. Nothing about your site has to change, the workspace just sits alongside it.
Frequently asked questions
Is Kilvin a Framer alternative?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.
Can I build a website with Kilvin?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.
Can Framer build a web app with a login?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.
Can I use Framer and Kilvin together?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.
Does Kilvin charge per editor?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.
Can Kilvin build it for me?
To add a video to your site, click the “Insert” button and navigate to the “Media” section. Then, drag and drop a video component onto the Canvas.